Dear Toby,
This is something of a hurried response to the consultation on the use of social media in the Methodist Church of Great Britain.
I am sorry that I have been unable to take part in the online discussion. I am working flat out on a big contract in my secular employment and have little time for involvement in other matters.
Firstly can I welcome the Methodist Council's decision to open this discussion to more people than just a handful of approved Methodist bloggers as previously - all of whom I suspect were Ministers.
My initial reaction on seeing the paper prepared for Methodist Council was one of profound disappointment.
You will be aware that a couple of years ago the Faith and Order Committee had issues with the "tone and content" of my blog. This was just about six months after I had started the blog.
I looked through the material and noticed that there had been one or two robust discussions. In particular I had taken up the Methodist sell out on gambling.
The problem for the Faith and Order Committee was not the "tone and content", it was the realisation that the connexional machinery was in the process of losing control of discussion and debate within the church.
That is why the first draft of the paper was so much about "discipline", "dismissal", "disrepute" and even at one point "criminal". I don't believe that the leadership of the Church understands that we now have the potential to develop a lively micro-media around Methodism that will inevitably challenge the status quo.
Just one example: during the last few months the BBC have been airing "An Island Parish". What happened on the Isles of Scilly happens across the connexion on an annual basis.
After the broadcast of each programme my blog received a massive surge of "visits" as people "googled" on the internet. On average I had about 2000 hits each week, specifically on that one issue.
From the comments and emails I received I know that many were Methodists keen to know the fuller story, prepared to discuss the issues raised. They were looking for information about Methodism that is no longer available in the mainstream media (we are rarely newsworthy) and is clearly suppressed (I think in your paper on social media you used the term "moderated") by the Methodist Recorder.
If part of the intention of those who promoted the original paper in the Methodist Council is to put the clock back they are onto a loser. For example I have already registered the url www.methodistpreacher.tv. With changing technology it is conceivable that within just a few years there will be a host of micro-media channels around every possible subject, including Methodism.
This is something of a hurried response to the consultation on the use of social media in the Methodist Church of Great Britain.
I am sorry that I have been unable to take part in the online discussion. I am working flat out on a big contract in my secular employment and have little time for involvement in other matters.
Firstly can I welcome the Methodist Council's decision to open this discussion to more people than just a handful of approved Methodist bloggers as previously - all of whom I suspect were Ministers.
My initial reaction on seeing the paper prepared for Methodist Council was one of profound disappointment.
You will be aware that a couple of years ago the Faith and Order Committee had issues with the "tone and content" of my blog. This was just about six months after I had started the blog.
I looked through the material and noticed that there had been one or two robust discussions. In particular I had taken up the Methodist sell out on gambling.
The problem for the Faith and Order Committee was not the "tone and content", it was the realisation that the connexional machinery was in the process of losing control of discussion and debate within the church.
That is why the first draft of the paper was so much about "discipline", "dismissal", "disrepute" and even at one point "criminal". I don't believe that the leadership of the Church understands that we now have the potential to develop a lively micro-media around Methodism that will inevitably challenge the status quo.
Just one example: during the last few months the BBC have been airing "An Island Parish". What happened on the Isles of Scilly happens across the connexion on an annual basis.
After the broadcast of each programme my blog received a massive surge of "visits" as people "googled" on the internet. On average I had about 2000 hits each week, specifically on that one issue.
From the comments and emails I received I know that many were Methodists keen to know the fuller story, prepared to discuss the issues raised. They were looking for information about Methodism that is no longer available in the mainstream media (we are rarely newsworthy) and is clearly suppressed (I think in your paper on social media you used the term "moderated") by the Methodist Recorder.
If part of the intention of those who promoted the original paper in the Methodist Council is to put the clock back they are onto a loser. For example I have already registered the url www.methodistpreacher.tv. With changing technology it is conceivable that within just a few years there will be a host of micro-media channels around every possible subject, including Methodism.
Therefore we will see an expectation for greater transparency and open debate within the Church. Unless those in leadership understand this, then we will see an almighty and unpleasant collision.
I remember in the early days of my blog, when I could count my regular readers on one hand, asking some pointed questions of you about the position of a member of our staff at Church House who had seemingly misused her role in Methodism to acquire a well paid quango job. My inquiries were treated with contempt. You were the person who treated that inquiry with contempt.
Since then I have seen no evidence that attitudes towards the social media in Church House have changed (though two of your staff answer my questions promptly and fully) The paper currently under discussion tells me that the intention is suppressing and managing ideas, not encouraging them.
So basically I start from the position that this paper is superfluous, except for those who are desperate to control.
What was particularly telling is the anxiety about "reputational damage" to the Methodist Church.
In my 25 years membership of the church I have seen some truly exemplary and wonderful work by many God fearing people intent on proclaiming God's love
But I've also seen plenty of reputational damage. I've seen behaviour on the part of some paid employees (or "office holders" as Ministers prefer to be known) that would simply not be tolerated in secular employment.
I've known several young women leave a Methodist Church because of inappropriate behaviour by a male clergyman. I've heard with my own ears a Methodist Minister boast of making hurtful and spiteful comments to a vulnerable homosexual. I've seen a vendetta waged by a Minster against a Superintendent that led to a serious breakdown of health.
All these issues were escalated through the appropriate channels.
However these purveyors of "reputational damage" have been carefully protected, allowed to continue poisoning the Bride of Christ.
So why the sudden concern about a handful of bloggers speaking out of turn?
And if we are going to start pursuing errant bloggers why aren't we pursuing others who have brought the church into disrepute?
I remember in the early days of my blog, when I could count my regular readers on one hand, asking some pointed questions of you about the position of a member of our staff at Church House who had seemingly misused her role in Methodism to acquire a well paid quango job. My inquiries were treated with contempt. You were the person who treated that inquiry with contempt.
Since then I have seen no evidence that attitudes towards the social media in Church House have changed (though two of your staff answer my questions promptly and fully) The paper currently under discussion tells me that the intention is suppressing and managing ideas, not encouraging them.
So basically I start from the position that this paper is superfluous, except for those who are desperate to control.
What was particularly telling is the anxiety about "reputational damage" to the Methodist Church.
In my 25 years membership of the church I have seen some truly exemplary and wonderful work by many God fearing people intent on proclaiming God's love
But I've also seen plenty of reputational damage. I've seen behaviour on the part of some paid employees (or "office holders" as Ministers prefer to be known) that would simply not be tolerated in secular employment.
I've known several young women leave a Methodist Church because of inappropriate behaviour by a male clergyman. I've heard with my own ears a Methodist Minister boast of making hurtful and spiteful comments to a vulnerable homosexual. I've seen a vendetta waged by a Minster against a Superintendent that led to a serious breakdown of health.
All these issues were escalated through the appropriate channels.
However these purveyors of "reputational damage" have been carefully protected, allowed to continue poisoning the Bride of Christ.
So why the sudden concern about a handful of bloggers speaking out of turn?
And if we are going to start pursuing errant bloggers why aren't we pursuing others who have brought the church into disrepute?
Rachael Lampard for example, just down the corridor from you in Church House, turned up at a secular conference and ridiculed the Methodist Church. The material has appeared on my blog. It was already in the public domain. Her speech actively sought to bring the Methodist Church into disrepute. Did Rachael Lampard face disciplinary action? Did anyone even take her aside and have a quiet word with her? I doubt it.
Then two weeks ago the man who I believe is most keen to suppress the Methodist blogsphere, David Gamble, currently President of Conference, but also the Connexional Secretary responsible for legal matters, went to a meeting of another denomination and had a "Gerald Ratner" moment. He talked of the church going out of existence. He talked us down big time. Were we a plc our share price would have fallen through the floor. Were we a plc David Gamble would by now have picked up his P45.
So before we start witch hunting a few difficult bloggers let us get the affairs of Church House and the connexional leadership in order.
There is just one other point I want to add. I'm sorry and surprised that the social media paper did not address the important challenges that sites like facebook, youtube and myspace can pose for churches and those within them.
Earlier I mentioned inappropriate contact between clergy and young women. Online this contact could be an even bigger issue. The paper nowhere seems to address how the Church should give guidance to Ministers, office holders or members on how we should behave online, who it is permissible to link to, who it is wise to avoid.
These are the real issues about the use of social media that need to be discussed and dealt with carefully. I fear it is only a matter of time before one of those who have done so much private damage to local congregations and individuals will do the same sort of damage online and more publicly. These people groom and the internet offers opportunities unimaginable just ten years ago. It will be no excuse for the Church to say that there was no guidance in place nor any call for such guidance.
The fact that these issues are not addressed speaks volumes about the motivation for this paper.
David
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David,
I just want to highlight your useful contribution of:
"Online this contact could be an even bigger issue. The paper nowhere seems to address how the Church should give guidance to Ministers, office holders or members on how we should behave online, who it is permissible to link to, who it is wise to avoid."
I don't imagine we would want to use language like "permissible" but this is a good point. It would be good to see it in the final version. But a weekend post with no suggested text is flying very close to the deadline.
Thank you Dave. My failure to produce an alternative text is simply down to time. I'm working ridiculous hours at the moment.
When I run consultation for a secular organisation I collect the responses together after the close and see whether or how we can incorporate the points. Last minute submissions are not a problem because that is built into the project plan from initiation.
This paper seems to be so hurried that issues like this were not considered and the proposed timetable doesn't seem to have any flexibility. I think it may be helpful to talk to the various youth organisations (BB, Scouts, Guides) that meet on our premises. I think they may have a view.
One other point may be useful considering is the very important "one year rule" - which I gather isn't actually a rule - whereby an outgoing Minister drops contact with their former congregations for a year as the new Minister settles in. That will be difficult to do when the congregation has been enlisted as "friends" on facebook.
It is these sort of issues that make me even more convinced that this paper wasn't thought through from day one: it is all about blogging as an alternative media and the church's desire to control it.
David,
I am sure Toby has a process in place to deal with last minute submissions. My point about submissions close to the deadline for the open part of the process is that it does not allow much opportunity for others to comment or contribute. That is after all why you and others pushed for an open consultation.
I have read suggestions on the issue of facebook friends for Youth workers in the past but this is the first time I have heard this as a suggestion for these guidelines. That is not conspiracy, it is the reason for an open process.
You have contributed something that everyone else had missed. That is good, it is why you and everyone else was invited to contribute.
As for the timetable as with every organisation there are elements that are fixed. I think we should be pleased that a significantly improved version will be seen by Council so soon and in time to be available to Conference this year.
They is of course no reason why, in such a dynamic area as this, these guidelines may be updated relatively soon.
Please also note that a key change of emphasis from the original draft has been to move as far as possible to values based guidelines rather than rules (that was one of the criticisms that you and others had). So it would be good if anything added about friends and followers could be in that spirit.
You and I disagree completely on the goal of the Church in writing these guidelines. I have spoken to a number of people who have asked for these guidelines because they have to pick up the pastoral pieces from social media disasters and while I feel that the benefits outweigh the risks I do take very seriously the horrible situations and real harm that has resulted from a misuse of this technology.
I believe that it is to the credit of people in the church who do not use social media themselves but have to pick up the pieces that they have allowed those who use social media (and have not noticed the problems) to be so involved in the drafting of these guidelines.
Thanks Dave.
That is helpful background information.
I am aware second hand of problems with pictures being placed on facebook.
However I'm not aware that anyone has had to "pick up the pastoral pieces from social media disasters". This is news to me and I think it would have been helpful if this had been made explicit in the original paper.
It would have helped if the paper had been more explicit. And I was genuinely surprised that the pastoral issues were not explored.
I did make this point in my very first post on this issue on January 26 (http://methodistpreacher.blogspot.com/2010/01/blogger-beware-methodist-church-will.html) when I said:
"But the real weakness of the paper is the complete failure to look at the many very complicated issues that can arise with social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter.........Online grooming is a real danger. There are huge child and vulnerable person protection issues here, and yet the paper on social media focuses on blogging."
So what I am saying is hardly new and yet it seems to have passed many by, confirming my view that this is about sorting out one or two difficult bloggers rather than taking a holistic look.
David,
I think you have mis-understood me a bit. The pastoral issues I have heard about were not about child protection nor safeguarding.
We come at the paper from very different directions. I have not seen the focus on blogging, to me the paper has always covered many types of social media with references to twitter, facebook, myspace, flickr etc. Especially with the stuff about mobile phones which are less likely to be used for blogging.
I think it is reading to much into the lack of anything about who you friend/follow (who is on your blogroll?) to read that as being blogging focused.
Thanks Dave.
The moral of our little exchange here is that there is clearly a lot of work to be done.
The problem for both of us is that very few people were aware this paper was being written in the first place. I certainly wasn't consulted despite being one of the few people in Methodism who is having to grapple with social media in their professional environment.
It would have helped if there had been much more transparency about the whole process.
I still mistrust the motivation for the appearance of this paper in the first place. I'm afraid we will have to differ in our interpretation of just how focussed it was on blogging - and one or two "difficult" bloggers!
David,
I think we need to move on. A lot has happened since the first version was released prior to the last Methodist Council.
So for you to now say "I certainly wasn't consulted" and "It would have helped if there had been much more transparency about the whole process." is now misleading.
You have been specifically invited into the open process to address the criticisms of the first paper (I know that because I was one of those who specifically invited you).
This second process has been very public (I know I have had contributions from prominent people in social media who are not Methodists as well as Methodists).
I know that we have discussed it here in staff meetings, Circuit Leadership Teams and with people from Churches. It has been on the Methodist Church website, in the Council report, in the Methodist Recorder and on Ekklesia.
Time has been tight but this has been very open (with several ways of contributing that have been publicised).
Simple google searches for "methodist social media guidelines" or "methodist social media" or even "church social media guidelines" all show plenty of links to the open process.
Dave. How can we take forward the area of agreement we have about guidelines re sites like facebook, youtube etc? I haven't the capacity at present.
Can you draft some main points?
David
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