Sunday, 12 July 2009

Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone

In recent days I have carried two posts on the issue of climate change. One in response to the suggestion that "sin" is the cause of climate change. The other an open ended question about the non-Christian spirituality which seems to be attaching itself to the issue.

I personally am aware that climate can change and may be undergoing one of its recurrent changes at the moment. I have no evidence to suggest that any climate will stay the same indefinitely - and neither has anyone else.

Some cite the plight of those who live in developing countries. Those problems have been with us for generations. The solutions are far deeper and far more costly than focusing on climate change and the fantasy that humankind is powerful enough to control the weather.

Like any other member of the Methodist Church I am entitled to express my view, as are others who comment on this blog.

No one is forced to read my ideas. If they disagree they are free to say so. I rarely censor comments.

In recent days however I have been taken aback by the sheer ferocity of the attacks on myself and others from a handful of Ministers, all active bloggers. I think the pits were reached when I was described as an "arse".

These people try to portray me as someone who doesn't care for the plight of the poor and the powerless. That they somehow have a monopoly of righteousness.

Let me tell you I joined a trades union when I was 16. I have been involved in industrial disputes and stood my ground on picket lines. I demonstrated against the war in Vietnam, Aparthied in South Africa, and actively worked for the liberation of Zimbabwe.

I supported the miners as their livelihoods and communities were destroyed. I backed asylum seekers long before it was fashionable. I have taken on the rich and powerful and have known defeat and sometimes victory.

I have been spat at, beaten up by police, soldiers and racists, had bullets whizzing around me in the Ardoyne, threatened, lost jobs, been subject to press harassment, betrayed, dragged before the courts (on one occasion by the gambling industry) and spent many, many hours trudging the streets arguing for the cause in which I have believed since my conversion.

The personal abuse of a handful of blogging Ministers. Methodists or URC, is hardly going to make me change my mind or cower me into silence. They should bear in mind that Methodist Preacher may hold his views just as deeply and with as much sincerity as they do.

8 comments:

kim fabricius said...

Geez, David, you sound like Captain Queeg in The Caine Mutiny. So nine out of ten for the megalomaniacal rant.
However, zero out of ten for your taste in painting.

Methodist Preacher said...

Kim, if you don't like the tone and content of this blog you are under no obligation to read it or comment.

If you feel it pains you, be released, go elsewhere and spread your poison.

For those who don't know Kim Fabricuis, he is a United Reformed Minister.

He believes that Evangelicals are "vermin".

Richard Hall said...

>> "I have been taken aback by the sheer ferocity of the attacks on myself and others "

What an extraordinary thing to say. I've re-read those threads pretty carefully. I can't see anything that would qualify as a ferocious attack, let alone attacks. It isn't even true that someone called you an arse. One person said you had your head in your ass (not a phrase I'd be inclined to use myself) which is hardly the same thing.

I've struggled to follow your reasoning in relation to climate change. One minute you're offering certainty that AGW is obvioulsy a hoax. The next you're saying you don't understand the evidence well enough to talk about it.

For someone who has been through as much as you have you appear to be very thin-skinned.

Richard Hall said...

PS Kim believes no such thing, as you know.

kim fabricius said...

Named and shamed!

David, I've just come from being the first to comment on you Ex-Pacifism post. That was a great post. I said so. Your climate-change post was terrible. I said so. I call 'em like I see 'em. As I do at several other blogs, where I seem to be welcome. What's the jargon word? You've got "issues", lad.

James said...

My favorite so far:

"I think the pits were reached when I was described as an "arse"." MP
“So I repeat. Are you accusing me of paganism?” DaveW
“It would seem that the Aussies, of which Professor Plimer is one, are beginning to rethink the science.” Ian G
“Me, I do occasionally use vulgar expressions (I'm from New York; it's part of my charming local…” Kim
“David, you are twisting my words. I suspect you will do anyway, but I'm not giving you more fodder, so I'm out of the discussion.” Pam BG
“…non sequitur…” Richard

kim fabricius said...

Great stuff, James! Every blog should have someone who interrupts and takes the, er, mick out of everyone.

(Now I had a choice on this one. "Take the piss"? Then I'm vulgar. "Take the mick"? Then I'm anti-Irish. As Italian-Irish American I went for "take the mick". Is that okay with the Language Police?)

Don't worry, David and Ian. I'll be off now. Winding you up more than I already have would be quite unChristian of me.

Richard Hall said...

I'm curious James - what are these your favourite examples of?